But then we didn't race against each other for awhile, and when I started running Trucks for Billy Ballew, he was racing Trucks for ThorSport. And for whatever reason, we seemed to race each other a lot better. So I don't know if it's just from the years I've been in the sport and him basically respecting me more because of it or what. We're not necessarily friends now, but I did not like him or get along with him when I first was in the sport.